chumming??? what to use

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:05 pm

I am new this year to still fishing trout and kokanee I was interested in starting a discussion on chumming what to use for what species and how much also was wondering if anyone has knowledge of anything that is bad for the Ecosystem or fish?

Post by **Amx** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:07 pm

What's bad for the fish? Hooks.

And frying pans.

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:15 pm

no those are good for the fish lol but I have heard about other folks who think that there are bad things to use for chum that hurt the fish and or lake and I could use an education.

Post by **Amx** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:17 pm

Those end up being good for our tummy.

Post by **salmonbarry** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:55 pm

only allowed in certain lakes- Bills boat house at American lake has some stuff there you can go talk to Bill or call him. They sell large jars of spent eggs and juice to mix with a sawdust sort of mixture. Be sure if you use corn to use cream corn only too just an FYI

Post by **G-Man** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:04 pm

Things not to use:
Eggs - (or any other bait) cured with sodium sulfite.
Corn - Raw or cooked.
Artificial Baits - Like Gulp and Power Bait.

Things to use:
Chopped earthworms, fish, shrimp and organ meats.
Fish eggs - uncured or plain salt cured, are preferable.

Post by **Toni** » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:50 pm

Kokanee Kraze 4 ended the evening with still fishing. He showed his chum. Wheat bran, blood meal, bone meal, oyster shells, rock salt.

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:45 am

G-Man wrote:Things not to use:
Eggs - (or any other bait) cured with sodium sulfite.
Corn - Raw or cooked.
Artificial Baits - Like Gulp and Power Bait.

Not being argumentative in the least, but I was wondering why no corn?
I was taught to use cream corn but received no info as to why and I would love to learn the whys I can guesse why no power bait to expensive and indigestible but the sodium sulfide and corn interest me

gfakkema · Post by **gfakkema** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:27 am

Post by **G-Man** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:52 am

ScottinMilton wrote:
G-Man wrote:Things not to use:
Eggs - (or any other bait) cured with sodium sulfite.
Corn - Raw or cooked.
Artificial Baits - Like Gulp and Power Bait.
Not being argumentative in the least, but I was wondering why no corn?
I was taught to use cream corn but received no info as to why and I would love to learn the whys I can guesse why no power bait to expensive and indigestible but the sodium sulfide and corn interest me

As was mentioned, corn is not digestible and can be difficult for the fish to pass.
Sodium Sulfite is toxic to most animals, including fish, dependent on the amount ingested. Might as well throw nitrites in there as well. If you wouldn't eat it because of potential health issues, think about what it would do to a fish which weighs less than 100th of what you do.

Post by **Bodofish** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:36 pm

gfakkema wrote:
ScottinMilton wrote:
G-Man wrote:Things not to use:
Eggs - (or any other bait) cured with sodium sulfite.
Corn - Raw or cooked.
Artificial Baits - Like Gulp and Power Bait.
Not being argumentative in the least, but I was wondering why no corn?
I was taught to use cream corn but received no info as to why and I would love to learn the whys I can guesse why no power bait to expensive and indigestible but the sodium sulfide and corn interest me
No corn because, just like humans, fish can't break it down. Ever wonder why corn looks the same going in as it does out on people? It ends up staying in the fishes stomach forever. Eventually the corn builds up and the fishes stomach cannot fit or process real food bits and the fish starves, with a belly full of undigested corn.

I'm gonna have to go with you're not chewing your food well enough and neither art the fish....

Post by **Bodofish** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:37 pm

G-Man wrote:
ScottinMilton wrote:
G-Man wrote:Things not to use:
Eggs - (or any other bait) cured with sodium sulfite.
Corn - Raw or cooked.
Artificial Baits - Like Gulp and Power Bait.
Not being argumentative in the least, but I was wondering why no corn?
I was taught to use cream corn but received no info as to why and I would love to learn the whys I can guesse why no power bait to expensive and indigestible but the sodium sulfide and corn interest me
As was mentioned, corn is not digestible and can be difficult for the fish to pass.
Sodium Sulfite is toxic to most animals, including fish, dependent on the amount ingested. Might as well throw nitrites in there as well. If you wouldn't eat it because of potential health issues, think about what it would do to a fish which weighs less than 100th of what you do.

But then there's always the old saying "Corn for texture.".

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:20 am

Any recipes out there??????

hewesfisher · Post by **hewesfisher** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:21 am

Bodofish wrote:I'm gonna have to go with you're not chewing your food well enough and neither art the fish....

I was thinking the same thing.

Post by **Bodofish** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:40 am

ScottinMilton wrote:Any recipes out there??????

Egg Juice over corn meal and fine sawdust. Mix in bowl, stuff in an old nylon stocking (Panty Hose for the younger set). Hang it off the boat or dock and come back after a few hours.

Be very careful where you do this. This is straight from the regs.

It is unlawful to chum, broadcast, feed, or
distribute into freshwater any bait or other
substance capable of attracting fish unless
specifically authorized in Special Rules.
Where use of bait is prohibited, or where lures
or flies are used voluntarily, Game Fish may
be caught and released until the daily limit is
retained. If any fish has swallowed the hook or
is hooked in the gill, eye, or tongue, it should
be kept if legal to do so.
It is unlawful to possess or use live aquatic
animals as bait, except:
1. Live aquatic animals (other than fish)
collected from the water being fished.
2. Live sand shrimp.
3. Live forage fish in the Columbia River
downstream of the Rocky Point/Tongue
Point line.

Post by **Gringo Pescador** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:37 am

Just get yourself a Super Bass-O-Matic 76. They work great!

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/ ... atic/n8631

Post by **Bodofish** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 9:56 am

Gringo Pescador wrote:Just get yourself a Super Bass-O-Matic 76. They work great!
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/ ... atic/n8631

You just made my hand hurt........

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:28 pm

wow I just watched the bassomatic thinking I was going to learn something guess not any more recipes thanks for yours Bodofish

mrnwcs · Post by **mrnwcs** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:16 am

Years ago When i anchor fished for kokanee I would pick up a bag of saw dust,2 quart jars of eggs and 2 cans of jack mackeral at the tackle shop. Always seem to produce for us.

ScottinMilton · Post by **ScottinMilton** » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:20 am

wow

thanks MRNCWS I am starting to get a list of ingredients that sounds like something off the syfy channel.

Gonna get me some mackerel, eggs with their juice, sawdust, rock salt, bone and blood meal, along with some corn meal for flavor and lets not forget texture.

I will add oyster shells, toss in a couple handfuls of loose salmon eggs and a cup and a half of finely chopped night crawlers add two cups of wheat bran. Add a cup of cottage cheese

and a half pound of chopped organ meats

and give it a try what do you think?
Seriously though these are some great ingredients

thanks so much lets keep the creative juices flowing..

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