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chongo469 · Post by **chongo469** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:35 am

Hit it yesterday in the boat.... Sloppy water and the fishing sucked... Lots of fishers on the beach and a few boats mooching out front... we stayed south and to the west staying out of there way.... Tons of porposes(sp) out front feeding on bait.... some coming right next to the boat... look like 2 ft dolphins....

MotoBoat · Post by **MotoBoat** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:16 am

chongo469 wrote:Hit it yesterday in the boat.... Sloppy water and the fishing sucked... Lots of fishers on the beach and a few boats mooching out front... we stayed south and to the west staying out of there way.... Tons of porposes(sp) out front feeding on bait.... some coming right next to the boat... look like 2 ft dolphins....

Those the the black ones with the grey sides? The wife had just caught a Silver out in are 10 last year. She sat down in the open bow area. I was bleeding the fish, boat was drifting. When up front came a sound made only from a swimming creature equipped with a blow hole!

Wife is frozen, but say's: "what was that!" I lean over and see 6 of those dolphins playing at the bow, just 3 ft below where she sat. One of the coolest thing's one will see, whild out on the water. She could have reached over and touched one. But probably best to keep the hands inside the boat, just the same. These guys and gals are 5-6ft long.

Post by **racfish** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:08 am

There is a small whale that resembles the porpise. I remember the old timers then called them "Blackfish" They were playful as well. They would scratch their backs on the underside of your boat. I did not like that. Im wondering if the Blackfish then was really a porpise.?

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:56 am

There are also Minke whales, but they are MUCH larger than the Dahls Porpoise.

MotoBoat · Post by **MotoBoat** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:10 pm

Matt wrote:There are also Minke whales, but they are MUCH larger than the Dahls Porpoise.

I had called them Dahl's Porpoise. But one of the many boats that swarmed our boat for a closer look see. Stated they were "Pacific White sided Dolphin". Looked like these. Can grow to 7ft and 400lbs.

rac, that is possible. These look mostly black, when zipping to and fro through the water.

Cozmo4196 · Post by **Cozmo4196** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:03 pm

Fished Friday, Sat and Sun(see reports page). Lots of people out over the weekend but only saw the net come out 3 times...2 of which were from our own boat. The girlfriend landed a small jack on Friday and I put a nice hen in the boat on Saturday. Sunday morning was a disaster: jammed up one of the new 1085 downriggers, fried the fish finder battery and couldn't find a bite if we'd paid for it. I'll be fishing out there again this coming weekend...keep an eye open for me(I'm always wearing that blue hat) and our small boat and say hi if you see us!

15lb hen!

Our 14.5 Gregor setup!

Bait was everywhere...or maybe I can't read my finder correctly.

Post by **G-Man** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:19 pm

Nice pics, looks like you had a great time. As for the sonar image, it looks to me like you are seeing the different currents in the area as opposed to bait. It's kinda cool really, the top layer may be moving in one direction and the bottom layer in another. I'm sure you have experienced this before while downrigger fishing and noting to yourself that the angle should be much greater or much less than what it actually is. This is why using the angle of your downrigger line to gauge lure speed is important.

Cozmo4196 · Post by **Cozmo4196** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:46 pm

G-Man wrote:Nice pics, looks like you had a great time. As for the sonar image, it looks to me like you are seeing the different currents in the area as opposed to bait. It's kinda cool really, the top layer may be moving in one direction and the bottom layer in another. I'm sure you have experienced this before while downrigger fishing and noting to yourself that the angle should be much greater or much less than what it actually is. This is why using the angle of your downrigger line to gauge lure speed is important.

The goal is a 45 degree angle, correct?

Post by **G-Man** » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:37 pm

Depends on a few factors. Weight of the ball, diameter of the downrigger line, drag of the gear you are pulling and how deep you are fishing. Best bet is to get on a deep lake and check out what your angles are at various depths and gps speeds. This will give you an idea on what to look for when you are out in the Sound/Ocean.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:49 am

We fished the end of the ebb on Saturday afternoon and picked up a nice Coho and a small blackmouth, about 23" which we bonked. Went over again Sunday morning and everything was set up perfect on the flood for a bigtime bite that never came. Heard of one 15 lb caught early, and nothing for us. Bait was everywhere and current was manageable. Just a slow morning.

I will say, however, we got 2 fish Sat morn over off the Richmond beach Oil Docks, losing 1 to a damn furbag!!!

Both nice fish, 15's, both caught on fresh herring we jigged up while trolling.

Also managed 3 takes off of E Bar Sunday, 2 of which were Silvers. One big king peeling line hooked in 85 ft, came unglued after a short fight. Dang barbless hooks and spoons.

Matt

BARCHASER10 · Post by **BARCHASER10** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:24 am

Fished both the east and west side of Possession and also Pilot yesterday. Two rods looking for Chinooks. No Nooks, two pinks and a small silver all of which we tossed back. Talked to the WDFW Research boat at Pilot and they were nada also. Beginning to think the Chinooks are over.

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:42 pm

Don't think it's over, just think they are "somewhere else" haha

Post by **racfish** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:25 pm

What someone called a "Jack" in the salt it is a "Shaker". Can we retain Shakers? Ive always let them go. Can someone tell me?Thx

Matt · Post by **Matt** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:35 pm

No, hence the name shaker. You shake it off. 22" min on CK. No min size on CO and Pinks. Keep a minnow if you want to waste your time with it, haha.

gfakkema · Post by **gfakkema** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:34 pm

BARCHASER10 · Post by **BARCHASER10** » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:09 pm

A Jack is a precocious (horny) Chinook male that is a sexually mature but physically immature and only three years old and 3-5 pounds or so. A Shaker is a feeder Chinook that is in its second year or maybe third year and 10" to 20". Obviously, if its up in the river on a spawning run its Jack and you can keep it. But in the salt, there is no way to know if it is a true Jack or a Shaker, so you cant keep it if it is under 22". Silvers have Jacks too.

king killer · Post by **king killer** » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:49 pm

Went out with my buddy today at 5 am sharp. At about 7 I hooked a decent sized Coho that I Krackered dude to a bad hook. Lesson learned. After changing hooks to a owner and casting another bazillion times I hook up with 6-7 lb. humpy. Landed that one. At about 1-2 pm my buddy hooks into a Coho and lands that one as well. Guessing 8-10lbs. All fish were hooked on spoon and hootchie combo.

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