Salmon River O.P. "Secret Location!"

BlakeP · Post by **BlakeP** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:03 pm

I didn't take a picture, but i fished the tahuya the saturday after it was mentioned that the river was stacked and there were about a 100 in the whole day. After every guy would catch his limit(Or more) then leave 5 guys would just replace him. It was pretty bad. Though it was kinda my fault, as i mentioned i wanted to fish that river and didn't take it to pm's. But i'm not going to talk about that anymore. I definetly agree with mike.

oneshot · Post by **oneshot** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:06 pm

bottom line is this..

Nothing is sacred anymore in this country.. especially this state!! all your secrets are known by someone else, maybe not a thousand people but others know "your stash".

seattlesteban · Post by **seattlesteban** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:09 pm

BlakeP · Post by **BlakeP** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:38 pm

seattlesteban wrote:i dunno man. Private message are supposed to be private. If your skin is so thin you can't just delete the 'hater' ims well then I guess you may need therapy.

No doubt, I got a few fish on the tahooey, but its kind of a d*** move to just post it in your thread about another river entirely.

Natetreat, are you REALLY going to post reports about the Tahooey? Its kind of out of the way and there's only 8 more days to fish it. The damage has been done. Making the effort to go to a river just for the express purpose of posting a report on an internet site seems lame to me. The fish aren't stacked in there like they were.... so any new reports will bring a bunch of assholes littering like I found last weekend.

*speaking as a person who spends money on guides*

Granted, I'm an *******, but I don't litter.

So the Tahooey has been ruined due to WALAKEs. Who cares, it closes at the end of the month. Hopefully people have a short memory and they forget about it next year. Notice no one has had the balls to post a Tahooey report in the report area.

I think some posts in here are an excellent example of the internet gone wrong.

Well..That was certaintly uncalled for don't ya think? I'm not gonna even get into this, seeing as your talking about other people.. And they can reply(If anyone choses too) how they see fit. But seriously? Seems to me like you got it wrong. I believe r.ton was the one who mentioned the "tahooey" on this thread, and just got a few people talking about it. As far as you talking about nate, i'm not gonna assume anything seeing as i don't really know. But i feel as if perhaps he was just making a point? That you possibly don't get? As far as "no one having the "balls..." to post a "tahooey" report...Maybe not too many people on the site have fished it. I didn't make a report, cause i normally don't have the time to report every time i fish and where. I'm sure alot of people don't either. It has nothing to do with " not having balls" didn't really want to put it that way, but its how it was said. I also have no comment on caliing people names, even if they do litter or whatever, It's still unnecessary. I'm done now, as i don't want to start any arguements and i'm sorry for what i've already said..I'm only expressing my opinon on what has been said.

seattlesteban · Post by **seattlesteban** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:55 pm

BlakeP · Post by **BlakeP** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:15 pm

seattlesteban wrote:Mike Carey chose to spell out the Tayhooey regs in the post about the Salmon river. Like, well, you're going to bring up the Tahooey as an example of a river being ruined, might as well reiterate that by posting the regs for ya so people know its open! Not to give info, but to troll on other posters. This is the 'balls' point. People don't post reports on the Tahooee, or any other rivers, because they don't want it blown up. So just to post the regs verbatim is a troll move.

Wa.gov lists the tahooey and dewatto as rivers to fish with less people. But people don't read wa.gov, so that's one of those red herring things. WA.GOV lists every fishable river, and naturally those rivers have fish 100% of the time, so me calling it out troll-like has no effect. Its listed in the regs!

Like, he could've posted the regs for any number of rivers that are open. Why not let us know the cowlitz regs? lots of fish there.

Regarding Nate, 'making a point' on the internet, i.e. threatening to post a report on a river he doesn't fish to rile up other posters is the definition of trolling. I mean, might as well go there and dump a bunch of trash and human waste so that the property owners close access, like the Samish.

Did you make the post? NO. I still don't think you understand. Don't think he said that the river was "ruined" and anyone can read that its open. I think that was his point, any river thats listed in the regs WILL at some point...Have a crowd of people fishing it. I in no way see as how he is "trolling" and to bring up "trolling" is pointless honestly. I also don't see as how nate was "threatening" to post a report. How do you know he doesn't fish the tahuya? Has he ever said otherwise? Maybe he does? Crowds are gonna litter, thats no ones fault on here. Bringing up the samish when complaining about a person bringing up the tahuya(After someone else brought it up in the first place) On a topic about the salmon river? Complaining about something your also doing. right? Oh, also with crowds and such, a site like this one wouldn't be a huge cause for crowds on rivers. when one guy goes to a river, if he tells a buddy of his and that guy tells people and it goes from there what happens? Doesn't matter if said person posts on a forum or if he say calls, or texts someone word still gets out. One last thing; Reports don't really blow up rivers, often but gives good honest fishermen on this site an idea of whats going on at a certain river they are planning on fishing. Atleast thats how i feel about it. It's not cause i'm worried about crowding a river that i don't always post reports, it's cause i can't always be posting reports on fishing when i fish almost every day.

seattlesteban · Post by **seattlesteban** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:19 pm

BlakeP · Post by **BlakeP** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:25 pm

What does age have to do with anything? It doesn't really matter. Seriously? I'm not getting into this, no point. Continue on with the complaining and such. All i have to say is; age doesn't matter, anyone can enjoy fishing. Way to be "mature" though.

natetreat · Post by **natetreat** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:36 pm

seattlesteban wrote:for the CHILDREN

Please do go read fark.com. Nobody deserves to be referred to as chunks of anything in your stool. That's low.

BlakeP · Post by **BlakeP** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:40 pm

natetreat wrote:
seattlesteban wrote:for the CHILDREN
Please do go read fark.com. Nobody deserves to be referred to as chunks of anything in your stool. That's low.

I noticed that before he edited it. Yeah, pretty low. Trolls..Replying to them just makes it worse i guess. Didn't expect that from just posting my opinion on some rude things said though.

natetreat · Post by **natetreat** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:08 am

I know, I don't get it.

This site is a site for information, reports and guidance, not for name calling and threats. My job is to take the entry level angler and get them on fish, even when they aren't fishing with me. If you don't agree with that, then don't read or frequent the site, because you're just going to get more and more upset. The more licenses that are sold, the more we can protect and improve our fisheries, and that's the only thing that will get any sort of attention from the state. If everyone was tight lipped about fishing, we wouldn't have tackle companies making steelhead specific lures, we wouldn't have hatcheries, we wouldn't have all the cool stuff that we do have. A river doesn't get "blown up" from a post, it gets blown up because the fish showed up and folks bring their buddies down. Word gets out regardless. Rain brings the fish, fish bring fishermen and fishermen bring their friends. The reason people use this site is to get information, and if they're a member they've used that information at some point or another, so it's really hypocritical to get upset when someone reports on a new river for the benefit of other members. Either you're just reading the site to get angry and brood over all the free information that's being shared, or you're just being a hypocritical post reader. Either way, chill out! The internet is an amazing tool for information and it's changing the game. In my opinion, for the better. There is a tremendous lack of friendliness in the sport right now, and antagonizing other anglers is just going to make it worse. If you want to be alone and fish, go trout fish. If you're targeting salmon and steelhead, you're going to find friends on the bank, because there are a limited amount of rivers with them in it. As more people fish, there are going to be more anglers on the water, and the same amount of space. Do the math. If you want seclusion, move to Alaska and get a float plane.

Post by **Mike Carey** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:30 am

man, I wish I could have seen the whole posts, LOL. I'll let others judge me by my last post. No name calling, just clear opinion stated in a rational way. Nothing I had to feel embarassed about afterward and remove.

BlakeP, I couldn't have defended myself any better.

As to my skin thickness, you missed the entire point of this thread if you think that's all it was about.

BentRod · Post by **BentRod** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:59 am

natetreat wrote:I know, I don't get it.

This site is a site for information, reports and guidance, not for name calling and threats. My job is to take the entry level angler and get them on fish, even when they aren't fishing with me. If you don't agree with that, then don't read or frequent the site, because you're just going to get more and more upset. The more licenses that are sold, the more we can protect and improve our fisheries, and that's the only thing that will get any sort of attention from the state. If everyone was tight lipped about fishing, we wouldn't have tackle companies making steelhead specific lures, we wouldn't have hatcheries, we wouldn't have all the cool stuff that we do have. A river doesn't get "blown up" from a post, it gets blown up because the fish showed up and folks bring their buddies down. Word gets out regardless. Rain brings the fish, fish bring fishermen and fishermen bring their friends. The reason people use this site is to get information, and if they're a member they've used that information at some point or another, so it's really hypocritical to get upset when someone reports on a new river for the benefit of other members. Either you're just reading the site to get angry and brood over all the free information that's being shared, or you're just being a hypocritical post reader. Either way, chill out! The internet is an amazing tool for information and it's changing the game. In my opinion, for the better. There is a tremendous lack of friendliness in the sport right now, and antagonizing other anglers is just going to make it worse. If you want to be alone and fish, go trout fish. If you're targeting salmon and steelhead, you're going to find friends on the bank, because there are a limited amount of rivers with them in it. As more people fish, there are going to be more anglers on the water, and the same amount of space. Do the math. If you want seclusion, move to Alaska and get a float plane.

Well said Nate.

The hypocrisy of people using the internet to get information, but complaining about people sharing information just astounds me.

OFFDAAHOOK · Post by **OFFDAAHOOK** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:47 am

i see it like this plain and simple Mike and Nate had a good time fishing and caught some awesome fish and shared they catch i see nothing wrong with it they doing their job what this site is for.da ones complaning i see no fish mayby they jelous

..ones complaning leave da site

Post by **RiverChromeGS** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:39 pm

Brat Bonker wrote:
R.Ton wrote:case in point is the tahuya. place was blown up from a post from here you cupcakes. have a bite.
+1 million
that was pretty bs, I heard it went from a couple people to a couple hundred because of that. The only reason I have to keep my rivers a secret so the poachers do not come, they wreck havoc on the runs at the tahuya and else where and those once good and big runs will never come back. oh yeah and not too mention the litter it comes with it. some people grew up around these rivers and rather not see them go down the toilet because off internet jerk posting reports about how many fish he saw and hooked and drawing crowds from all over.

theres no way some little river like that is gonna blow up from one post, not like everyone from around the state is gonna rush to this creek from hours away because of a good report, good reports come in from all rivers all the time. Bottom line is everything, EVERYTHING is getting more crowded now days, the upper samish was 100x more crowded then ive ever seen it this year, and i have seen VERY few reports for it on this website, and last night i went to the South fork nooksack mid week afternoon and it was more crowded then last year on a saturday, AND THE FISHING IS SLOW! i have never ever seen a a report for this river on Wa Lakes. the reason more people are fishing...? economy is bad, people dont have jobs, more time to fish, especially during the wekk, words gettng out about places, its becoming a more popular sport, MUCH more popular. one or 2 good reports for a river is not going to blow a place up like that theres just no way, its just a way for complainers to compain about their rivers getting more crowded. How about ya get off your ass on the computer and go find another place with less people eh? (not directed to you brat bonker just people complaining in general)

Brat Bonker · Post by **Brat Bonker** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:48 pm

oh really FF you don't think that small rivers can blow up from internet. I had people from seattle areas as well as tacoma come all the way the quilcene just from reading reports. Tahuya was no different so I did not even bother fishing it this year like I always do becuase of people saying how great this river is when they are just snagging them. Its fine to tell your buddies cause than atleast it stays local but when you go blabbing it on the interenet than it gets bad and that is when the rivers just turn ugly. The skookumchuck is another example yeah I am no local either but a lot of people talk about it and i do not if you pay attention but there is a ton of trash down there and I know it is not all from the locals, heck you come all the way from bham to fish it. i do not really care if guides tell about there adventures cause they know the rivers they fish like the back of their hand but when average joe blow goes and tells everyone how they limited with ease than everyone else knows it is easy to catch fish than. i see that all the time especially on bigger rivers like the cowlitz.

OFFDAAHOOK · Post by **OFFDAAHOOK** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:57 pm

i just made some microwave pop corn im gonna enjoy this one

chrome_chasin · Post by **chrome_chasin** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:15 pm

damn I was hoping the Chuck would stay out of this one.

EAmon ___hoffman123 · Post by **EAmon ___hoffman123** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:18 pm

chrome_chasin wrote:damn I was hoping the Chuck would stay out of this one.

Didn't we all

natetreat · Post by **natetreat** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:17 pm

I don't know what the big deal is about the Skook. I've been fishing bloody run for 15 years, and it's always been just as packed as it is now. It's an awesome run, and the run has been getting better and better these past few years. PLus it's one of the only relatively local rivers with an awesome B-run of late winter steelhead. Your options for February-March steelhead are very limited, so of course we're going to see people from Seattle make the trip. Although there are tons of spots on the river to fish besides below the dam, the locals have crowded up the river for years! Centralia and Chehalis not to mention Olympia have a huge angling population, probably the same number as live in the Seattle area. We have the Skook, the CHehalis, the Cowlitz down there and we grew up fishing it. To be certain the locals are more responsible for the littering and unfriendliness than the commuters hands down. On all these rivers. More than this site, the News Tribune and Seattle Times are responsible for putting anglers on new spots. We have the bulliten board at sportsmen's warehouse and the guys working the fishing section at Sportco. These guys make a living of fishing and outdoor pursuits, just like me. So it's in our best interest in getting the word out about these rivers. Reports are the business for this site, advertising my adventures and trips are my business for the site. If you want to get all hurt about my business, that's fine. I'm tired of guides that are tight lipped, gruff and unfriendly. That's one of the main reasons that I do what I do, to be a friendly, knowledgeable guide that gets clients set up to catch fish on their own. Sure you can hire a guide that will be discreet with his knowledge, but when you hire me you get more for your money. That's how I roll. Knowing where the fish are doesn't help you much to catch 'em if you're new to the sport, so I don't see any problem with getting the word out.

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