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Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:03 am
by kbf1961
I am wanting to get another spinning float set up....What would be a good sub 200.00 for steelhead

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:50 am
by Mordalphus
I have a 10'6" Okuma sst rod with shimano Sahara. Haven't had any problems with it, but I also haven't caught a steelhead on it yet!

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:52 am
by drysuperfly52
calbelas in marysville has some L&G Wright (i got the name wrong i think) poles for $50 right now (normally $100) i have one for steelhead/coho and i love that pole. my buddy just got one for himself last week. i have have also had a lead in the same companies waders and they replaced them for free. since they stand by theere product i always try to buy from them.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:45 pm
by Gringo Pescador
I started out with a Okuma SST 10'6" float rod and a Plueger President. Worked great for about $150 total.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:08 pm
by RiverChromeGS
SST is a great rod like everyone said, but i would suggest a Shimano Reel, like the Sahara or 80$, or the next step up for 100. Very reliable

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:34 pm
by natetreat
I dunno about that Shimano reel advice anymore Danny. I picked up a bunch of the Saharas, and they crapped out after 3 weeks of fishing hard. I replaced them with some of the Pflueger reels at the same price point, and the bails died, they got crunchy and couldn't stay out of reverse mode.

I bought a bunch of Tica Cambrias for 10 bucks a piece on sale at Ed's in Lynnwood, and guess what? They're still smooth, reeling great and the bail still closes automatically , even after fishing them hard for a month now. The drag leaves something to be desired, it's not as smooth as say your stradic, but it gets the fish to shore just fine.

I'm really starting to get irritated with Shimano, after the Curado G series garbage. Those reels are trash. The Sahara will cut your line on the bail, it grabs it and frays the line on the connecter area by the roller. I've lost a few fish to that. If you close the bail to reel down on the fish before setting the hook, half the time it won't grab the roller, and you set the hook, your line flies out, opening the bail half way. At this point, odds are you're still reeling down on the fish and it gives you a giant rats nest all over your reel. Either that or you don't even notice that you're line is fraying because of it and it just snapps for no reason.

Right now I'm at a loss, I'd like to be able to have a durable reel that will last forever and perform, but I haven't found one. Get a Tica, at 15-25 bucks even if it craps out, you'll be able to buy 5 or 6 of them before the price comes close to "nicer" reels.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:35 pm
by natetreat
As for rods, an SST is a great all around float rod. Although if I were really going to get a rod tailered to float fishing, I'd want a bait caster.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:08 pm
by RiverChromeGS
Ive had 4 saharas for over 4 years and they work like brand new, so i dunno. workin great for me and shimano has always been my number 1 for spinning reels, and abu garcia for bait caster

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:06 pm
by Gringo Pescador
Nate, what do you mean about the bail dying on the Pfluegers? I know I've had issues with them with casting, the motion of the cast would spin the reel enough to flip the bail mid cast and snap my line. I took the reel apart and took the little auto-engage pin out (not a big deal) and that solved my problem. You have to manually flip the bail, but I like it better that way anyway.

I've got 4 presidents of different sizes, the newest one being about 4 years old. Never had another issue with them.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:56 pm
by natetreat
Gringo Pescador wrote:Nate, what do you mean about the bail dying on the Pfluegers? I know I've had issues with them with casting, the motion of the cast would spin the reel enough to flip the bail mid cast and snap my line. I took the reel apart and took the little auto-engage pin out (not a big deal) and that solved my problem. You have to manually flip the bail, but I like it better that way anyway.

I've got 4 presidents of different sizes, the newest one being about 4 years old. Never had another issue with them.
The auto close function is the first thing to die on any spinning reel in my experience. Yea, it died, and some of my clients don't appreciate having to close the reel manually. They aren't the presidents, I can't remember what they're called. I picked up four of them for 50% off at cabela's.

My reels get a lot of bank rash, and dunks in the water as you can imagine. I'm in the market for something that can take a beating and keep going. At 15 bucks, the Ticas are winning right now. I just wish they could hold more line in the smaller sizes, I have to put braid on them to get a good amount. But for now, I'm steering clear of Shimano, I haven't been impressed with their ability to hold up over time and lots of use. It seems that the reel companies make toy reels at the bottom, and anything with longevity is super pricey. If I could, I'd swear off spinning reels forever and run BC for every rod. Something bulletproof like the old ambassadors.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:05 pm
by jumpinjim
natetreat wrote:As for rods, an SST is a great all around float rod. Although if I were really going to get a rod tailered to float fishing, I'd want a bait caster.
Hey Treaty no love for the CP? Whats up with that?

Re: Float set up

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:28 pm
by kbf1961
Hell with it. I just bought the bullitt on a new Stradic and Ill go get the Lamiglass at BiMart tomorrow

Re: Float set up

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:30 am
by natetreat
jumpinjim wrote:
natetreat wrote:As for rods, an SST is a great all around float rod. Although if I were really going to get a rod tailered to float fishing, I'd want a bait caster.
Hey Treaty no love for the CP? Whats up with that?
Treaty? What's up with that? 8-[

I've never used a center pin. Functionally, a good smooth bait caster works better than a center pin for float fishing. Example: my quantum smoke lets the line off of the reel effortlessly, as smooth as a bait caster, can cast weights very light, and the 7:1 retrieve ratio makes for a quick and efficient fight. However, I cast with the magnetic breaks and spool completely loose, with the brake on, it will sacrifice the free spool and affect your drift.

However, I do pair it with a center pin rod. The TFO center pin is a perfect float fishing tool, as well as great for free drifting eggs, or casting jigs for twitching. When I'm bobber dogging, I prefer a 9'6" drift rod over a float rod, they have a faster action, which allows for greater sensitivity when you're feeling the bottom and the strike.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:10 am
by jumpinjim
Treatsie,

I won't say if you haven't tried it you shouldn't comment because someone could easily suggest a few things I have never tried as fowl as they might be. Stuff like Lunker Lotion on a Pink Hoochie, I'm a smelly jelly guy, I won't ever try anything else, but I won't say Smelly Jelly is the best either. But yea, I get where you are coming from, I don't exactly agree but that's cool too, I like the CP. If you like the TFO check out the Echo Pinner, that is a sweetheart!

Re: Float set up

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:59 pm
by RiverChromeGS
kbf1961 wrote:Hell with it. I just bought the bullitt on a new Stradic and Ill go get the Lamiglass at BiMart tomorrow
GOOD call. Best reel out there IMO

Re: Float set up

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:16 pm
by wolff
fishenfreak wrote:SST is a great rod like everyone said, but i would suggest a Shimano Reel, like the Sahara or 80$, or the next step up for 100. Very reliable
I've been really abusing my Shimano Sahara for about a year and a half now. Fits like a glove. Spends most of it's time on salt water. The bail clicks smoother than most. Drag is really nice. Casts nice with 10-12 lb.

Re: Float set up

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:51 pm
by wolff
fishenfreak wrote:SST is a great rod like everyone said, but i would suggest a Shimano Reel, like the Sahara or 80$, or the next step up for 100. Very reliable
+1