WDFW Warmwater Management
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Trent Hale
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RE:WDFW Warmwater Management
I am sure the state has more money than they know what to do with! If they spend it on bass thats the qustion!
Are you hung up again!
HAWG HUNTER!
HAWG HUNTER!
RE:WDFW Warmwater Management
Aaron -
I just look at the 2008/2009 regulations and could not find a single Lake in the State that had special regulations (something different than the statewide regs) for bass (either smallmouth or largemouth). Prior to the most change of the statewide bass regulations a couple years ago there were a number of waters that had different regulatins that were tailor to for a specific water and in general attempted to provide a more quality bass fishery. As I remember there was very little comment from the public about the decrease in "quality" bass waters. Without much interest from fellow bass anglers (at least enough interest to bother commenting to the state in support of any changes) you are probably figthing an uphill battles.
That said I encourage to push your idea forward. Next year will be a "major regulation cycle" where the state will accept ideas and proposals from interested parties for changes to the current regulations for the 2010 season. As I remember the timeline for submitting proposals for regulation changes is in the spring so you have sometime to put together your ideas and have a proposal ready to go. I suggest that you plan on having your proposal ready by May 2009.
You might want to think about the details that you what to include in your proposals. Some things to consider:
1)How many lakes would you like to see placed under CnR regulations? WQhere about in the State? How large of waters?(how many acres?) Would you be looking at waters that currently have quality bass or at least growth rates that if given the chance would be expected to produce quality bass (what is a quality bass?) or are you looking at CnR regulations as an approach to "fix" lakes that currently having problems?
2) Would it be Catch and release just for bass or all species in the lake?
3) Would you want gear restrictions to be inlcude in the CnR regulations? With trout and steelhead most CnR seasons also require selective fishing rules which means barbless single point hook, no bait or scent, no motors, and knotless nets. On some waters there have been exceptions to some of those provisions but you probably want to consider the selective gear thing and have specific concrete ideas in your proposals.
4) Whenever there have been changes in bass rules the question of how the changes will affect tournaments always comes up. So you might want to consider whether exceptins will be made for tournament anglers on the CnR bass lakes.
If you decide to go ahead with developing your idea and submit a proposal hopefully folks here will be serve as a sounding board for your ideas and at some willing to support the proposals if the time comes.
If you do develop a proposal and want someone to take a look at a draft of your ideas feel free to send me an email and I will take a look.
BTW - The window for submittng regulation change proposals in the next major regulation cycle (spring of 2009 for changes in 2010) is an opportunity for others to also submit ideas. If you have regulations that you do not like, do understand or want changes submitting proposals is a good way to get the discussions going for change. In spite of what is commonly heard on the various forums about the need to change regulatiosn the fact is out of more than 1/2 million anglers in this state usually only a 100 or so actually submit proposals for regulation changes each cycle.
Tight lines]
Curt
I just look at the 2008/2009 regulations and could not find a single Lake in the State that had special regulations (something different than the statewide regs) for bass (either smallmouth or largemouth). Prior to the most change of the statewide bass regulations a couple years ago there were a number of waters that had different regulatins that were tailor to for a specific water and in general attempted to provide a more quality bass fishery. As I remember there was very little comment from the public about the decrease in "quality" bass waters. Without much interest from fellow bass anglers (at least enough interest to bother commenting to the state in support of any changes) you are probably figthing an uphill battles.
That said I encourage to push your idea forward. Next year will be a "major regulation cycle" where the state will accept ideas and proposals from interested parties for changes to the current regulations for the 2010 season. As I remember the timeline for submitting proposals for regulation changes is in the spring so you have sometime to put together your ideas and have a proposal ready to go. I suggest that you plan on having your proposal ready by May 2009.
You might want to think about the details that you what to include in your proposals. Some things to consider:
1)How many lakes would you like to see placed under CnR regulations? WQhere about in the State? How large of waters?(how many acres?) Would you be looking at waters that currently have quality bass or at least growth rates that if given the chance would be expected to produce quality bass (what is a quality bass?) or are you looking at CnR regulations as an approach to "fix" lakes that currently having problems?
2) Would it be Catch and release just for bass or all species in the lake?
3) Would you want gear restrictions to be inlcude in the CnR regulations? With trout and steelhead most CnR seasons also require selective fishing rules which means barbless single point hook, no bait or scent, no motors, and knotless nets. On some waters there have been exceptions to some of those provisions but you probably want to consider the selective gear thing and have specific concrete ideas in your proposals.
4) Whenever there have been changes in bass rules the question of how the changes will affect tournaments always comes up. So you might want to consider whether exceptins will be made for tournament anglers on the CnR bass lakes.
If you decide to go ahead with developing your idea and submit a proposal hopefully folks here will be serve as a sounding board for your ideas and at some willing to support the proposals if the time comes.
If you do develop a proposal and want someone to take a look at a draft of your ideas feel free to send me an email and I will take a look.
BTW - The window for submittng regulation change proposals in the next major regulation cycle (spring of 2009 for changes in 2010) is an opportunity for others to also submit ideas. If you have regulations that you do not like, do understand or want changes submitting proposals is a good way to get the discussions going for change. In spite of what is commonly heard on the various forums about the need to change regulatiosn the fact is out of more than 1/2 million anglers in this state usually only a 100 or so actually submit proposals for regulation changes each cycle.
Tight lines]
Curt
RE:WDFW Warmwater Management
My problem with Oregon and Washington fish agencies is not about stocking or not stocking bass, but is more about wiping out good bass fisheries with rotenone only to stock the lake again in the spring with genetically disabled hatchery trout that have no chance of surviving the month of July. The lake, from an angler's standpoint, is worthless 9 monthes out of the year.
By the time the water warms for bass angling the trout have already been harvested or died because they cannot survive that environment.
By the time the water warms for bass angling the trout have already been harvested or died because they cannot survive that environment.