4 dollars a gallon...

[SPARKY101]

If those brands are not imported,why are they still as high as the others?

[A9]

If those brands are not imported,why are they still as high as the others?

Just because they are imported doesn't mean the costs are higher....
Eastern Asian made goods (shoes, clothes etc.) are cheaper then American made goods....Most of the stuff in Wal Mart is made in Asia and it's dirt cheap...

[SPARKY101]

So really is it going to make a difference if i continue to buy from chevron"not really" or walmart probably not.The problem is nobody in this country sees eye to eye and will continue to do what they want,when and how and i guarantee im not the only one who sees it this way.Its all about how much money i can leave in my wallet now.Hate me if you want but thats just me:bball:

[A9]

So really is it going to make a difference if i continue to buy from chevron"not really" or walmart probably not.Its all about how much money i can leave in my wallet now.Hate me if you want but thats just me:bball:

It will make a very very very small difference if one person supports an American product vs. a non American product. No doubt about that...But if a large group of people make the change, a bigger impact will be seen and felt. We can't rely on others to make the change for us and allow us to keep our current methods...

We need to become less dependent on Middle East oil, and if we want to do that, our attitudes regarding where we buy and our consumption must change...I'm not trying to get on your back SPARKY, I'm just voicing my opinion in response to yours....

[gpc]

So really is it going to make a difference if i continue to buy from chevron"not really" or walmart probably not.The problem is nobody in this country sees eye to eye and will continue to do what they want,when and how and i guarantee im not the only one who sees it this way.Its all about how much money i can leave in my wallet now.Hate me if you want but thats just me:bball:

I understand where you are coming from, a penny saved is a penny earned. But even if the "local" gas costs $.05 more a gallon,(wich I doubt) I am only spending a $1.25 more per fill up . So in a year I would save around $100. Small price to pay to keep the money in the country, or away from people who hate me

[Trent Hale]

If we all buy form USA the price will drop but it would take every one in the US to make it happen. So how do you like Goverment Opression? Its funny to me they can tell a ball player how much he can make and how much water you use to flush! But can't do any thing about the price of oil. How many more friends and family have to die for this!

[cavdad45]

The problem with the price of gas is government, not the oil companies. No new drilling, no new refineries, no offshore drilling. By the way, when the libs tax oil company profits, where do you expect that penalty to come from? Pass it down to the consumer.

We have enough oil under our soil and off our shorelines to make America completely independent from foreign (or hostile) oil. But thank you to the liberals and enviro-wackos!!!

How far will it go before we get so upset with our government's handcuffing the oil industry that we blame the true criminals in Congress? $8? $10 $15? How long before the American public cries uncle?

As for me, I am sinking as many of my assets into oil stocks and commodities as possible. No matter what, I win.

[fishaholictaz]

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But thank you to the liberals and enviro-wackos!!!

Your welcome My wife and I will fight to keep the oil feilds off public lands that way Alaska and other wild lands can stay natural:-" No amount of oil is worth the wild lands that it lays under:-&

[A9]

We have enough oil under our soil and off our shorelines to make America completely independent from foreign (or hostile) oil. But thank you to the liberals and enviro-wackos!!!

How far will it go before we get so upset with our government's handcuffing the oil industry that we blame the true criminals in Congress? $8? $10 $15? How long before the American public cries uncle?

As for me, I am sinking as many of my assets into oil stocks and commodities as possible. No matter what, I win.

I'm guessing you are talking about the potential of oil in North/South Dakota in those fields (and off the coast) and not in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge?

Because ANWR won't help gas prices by much at all....
ANWR might lower the price per barrel of oil as much as $.50 cents. With the price per barrel now well over $100, we won't see any noticeable change in prices at the pumps.

[Rollin with Rolland]

Also, there is lots of Uranium.. average crustal abundance is 4ppm and if your parents live in a home on 1/4 acre of land the total Uranium-235 contained within the definition of the real estate deed is enough to build about 2 dozen nuclear bombs...

not that anybody cares, but the earths' crust can be over 20 miles thick, so that's a lot of diggin at 4ppm....also, your body is radioactive...if you want to get technical....i would bet you got some c-14 decay in your body...maybe even u-235!! (you can make any stat say anything you want...watch.....i read that 60% of all forum users get there info strictly from the internet, and 70% of all internet info is made up, therefore, 42% of all forum users are made up) sorry....had to do it...(although you do seem well spoken and researched little river, MAYBE a little less authoritarian approach and more of a teacher approach) best wishes...

[Gisteppo]

Cav, one of the things I truly love about my country is that you and I can coexist. You can be as detrimental as I think you are, and I can be as detrimental as you think I am. Of course, the truth must always be the guiding hand regardless.

No new drilling, no new refineries, no offshore drilling. By the way, when the libs tax oil company profits, where do you expect that penalty to come from? Pass it down to the consumer.

On new drilling, the only stifling of drilling in the entire US is the ANWR project. Much of the northern tier can be drilled at the will of the oil company. Problem is it isn't the same type of oil deposit as the middle eastern oil. Oil companies do not want to put the extra dollars in refining that type (oil sands) when the end product cost is the same. Secondly, why pay for infrastructure when you can just buy the oil from existing sources?

On new refineries, there has been no change in legal restrictions on oil refinery construction since the 1980's. It is a conservative radio talking point to blame the government and the EPA for saying no. This is not the case, however. A refinery could be built tomorrow in the US, meeting the exact same codes of construction as the one in Anacortes, without any new legal wranglings. Again, as an oil exec, why build a refinery at great capital cost, when you can use it as a choke point and blame it on reduced stocks, thereby increasing your price and profit with no cash outlay?

On offshore drilling, exactly where are they NOT allowing offshore drilling? Last I checked they were drilling the ever living dogsnot out of the Gulf of Mexico, with more rigs off the Pacific, including deep water rigs under construction right now. These (pacific) are not stifled at all by the US government because some are more than 200 miles offshore, which falls in international waters and have significantly fewer restrictions on their construction and regulation, since no country can claim them as their own.

Lastly, the concept of WINDFALL PROFITS TAX is to not give an end-user payment. The company makes X amount of dollars, which if it exceeds the preset level, they owe significantly higher taxes. IF they DO NOT meet this higher level, they pay lower taxes (mind you, some of the lowest corporate taxes of any industry, comparative to public utilities). This gives the companies a vested interest in lowering cost and using profit for capital expenditures such as new rigs and new refineries, instead of just taking profits.

Please, for me, take talk radio with a grain of salt. BOTH SIDES. I don't believe a word I hear until I research it and find the truth.

E

[Marc Martyn]

How far will it go before we get so upset with our government's handcuffing the oil industry that we blame the true criminals in Congress? $8? $10 $15? How long before the American public cries uncle?

Hmmmm.... 12 years of a republican controlled congress until November '06.

[kantill]

Wow for once I am going to agree with Gisteppo.

What we really need is a government that doesn't make a very large amount of money off the oil companies, in the USA or overseas. Also we need to really spend time and money to get us off of fossilized fuels. There is no need to replace all the cars on the road to today just rethink their source of power.

[kevinb]

With all this oil price BS,its time to get new bikes for the family...besides its great exercise and family time.

[A9]

With all this oil price BS,its time to get new bikes for the family...besides its great exercise and family time.

+1!
I'll be picking up a new bike (pedal that is) this summer. I used to ride a bunch with friends and do a little riding "off the beaten road" a few years ago and haven't remembered how much fun it was. I grew outta my last bike around age 16, and luckily a few a years later have finally stopped growing. Time to get a new one. And with price of gas over $4, throw a backpack on and hop on the bike if ya need something at the store....

[kantill]

It also doesn't help when the goverment says that the oil companies are doing nothing wrong. That lead to a .30 raise to he gas price over the weekend.

[cavdad45]

Cav, one of the things I truly love about my country is that you and I can coexist. You can be as detrimental as I think you are, and I can be as detrimental as you think I am. Of course, the truth must always be the guiding hand regardless.

No new drilling, no new refineries, no offshore drilling. By the way, when the libs tax oil company profits, where do you expect that penalty to come from? Pass it down to the consumer.

On new drilling, the only stifling of drilling in the entire US is the ANWR project. Much of the northern tier can be drilled at the will of the oil company. Problem is it isn't the same type of oil deposit as the middle eastern oil. Oil companies do not want to put the extra dollars in refining that type (oil sands) when the end product cost is the same. Secondly, why pay for infrastructure when you can just buy the oil from existing sources?

On new refineries, there has been no change in legal restrictions on oil refinery construction since the 1980's. It is a conservative radio talking point to blame the government and the EPA for saying no. This is not the case, however. A refinery could be built tomorrow in the US, meeting the exact same codes of construction as the one in Anacortes, without any new legal wranglings. Again, as an oil exec, why build a refinery at great capital cost, when you can use it as a choke point and blame it on reduced stocks, thereby increasing your price and profit with no cash outlay?

On offshore drilling, exactly where are they NOT allowing offshore drilling? Last I checked they were drilling the ever living dogsnot out of the Gulf of Mexico, with more rigs off the Pacific, including deep water rigs under construction right now. These (pacific) are not stifled at all by the US government because some are more than 200 miles offshore, which falls in international waters and have significantly fewer restrictions on their construction and regulation, since no country can claim them as their own.

Lastly, the concept of WINDFALL PROFITS TAX is to not give an end-user payment. The company makes X amount of dollars, which if it exceeds the preset level, they owe significantly higher taxes. IF they DO NOT meet this higher level, they pay lower taxes (mind you, some of the lowest corporate taxes of any industry, comparative to public utilities). This gives the companies a vested interest in lowering cost and using profit for capital expenditures such as new rigs and new refineries, instead of just taking profits.

Please, for me, take talk radio with a grain of salt. BOTH SIDES. I don't believe a word I hear until I research it and find the truth.

E

Well said. I do appreciate your opinions as they show me another side ( an educated and articulate side) to every debate.

I disagree in that offshore drilling is currently being limited on the West Coast by local and state mandates. And no permits have been approved in over twenty years for new refineries.

In no way should any government agency penalize any business for its success. Who should say how much I should be able to make before I offend big brother and get slapped with a fine. That is not capitalism. Let's say you and I own a widget company and the government tells us that if we exceed their preselected or alotted profit that we are going to get hammered. What do we do? Lowering overhead costs equates to a better bottomline, can't do that, we'll get fined. Invest in infrastructure? Why? We are already making good money. The realisitic solution and that which will give us those great gas lines of the 70's is to hit just below the government's maximum acceptable profit level......and stop production. Big profits, lower overhead, no out of pocket investments, no heavy tax penalty. That's why the Soviet Union failed. No incentive for initiative, hard work, or personal and financial risk.

Less government is always better. What problem has the government ever been able to solve? Everything they touch is forever soiled. Keep government out of the oil industry.

BTW, Marc, I blame both the Dems and the Republicans for this mess. Though these days who can tell them apart. McCain? Look where he voted from. No , I am not a Republican. I am a conservative, fiscally and socially. I vote my heart not a party.

[Marc Martyn]

Some of the gurus on Wall Street have said this on occasion, but I talked with my customer today who delivers gas to the local stations. He told me that by sometime in July, we could be seeing gas at $5.00/gal if not more.

If this isn't brought under control soon, we run the risk of our economy collapsing and possibly the world economy also. Food shortages are already escalating around the world. Something has to be done about the speculation on oil. Now.

[Anonymous]

Cav, one of the things I truly love about my country is that you and I can coexist. You can be as detrimental as I think you are, and I can be as detrimental as you think I am. Of course, the truth must always be the guiding hand regardless.

No new drilling, no new refineries, no offshore drilling. By the way, when the libs tax oil company profits, where do you expect that penalty to come from? Pass it down to the consumer.

On new drilling, the only stifling of drilling in the entire US is the ANWR project. Much of the northern tier can be drilled at the will of the oil company. Problem is it isn't the same type of oil deposit as the middle eastern oil. Oil companies do not want to put the extra dollars in refining that type (oil sands) when the end product cost is the same. Secondly, why pay for infrastructure when you can just buy the oil from existing sources?


E

The North Dakota field is truly amzing when one looks into it. 2 miles down, requiring specialized drilling techniques which are now becoming viable as oil goes over $100. And the majors are not envolved (except for Marathon). Estimates range from 200-500 BBO (billion barrels of oil). Alaska by comparison is around 16 BBO. Saudi Arabia has reserves estimated at 260 BBO. In other words, the United States is the number one country in the world for proven reserves, assuming thoseestimates are right. The challenge is getting it out. The technique to remove said oil is horizontal drilling. Very feasible and there are wells going up that are producing already.

Per Next Energy News:

"Marathon Oil is investing $1.5 billion and drilling 300 new wells in what is expected to be one of the greatest booms in Oil discovery since Oil was discovered in Saudi Arabia in 1938."

If we had the political will (and I fault both sides of the aisle), this country could be energy independant. I guess I'm a dreamer, but I like to believe we can do anything in this country. We should settle for nothing less.

[fishaholictaz]

Some of the gurus on Wall Street have said this on occasion, but I talked with my customer today who delivers gas to the local stations. He told me that by sometime in July, we could be seeing gas at $5.00/gal if not more.

If this isn't brought under control soon, we run the risk of our economy collapsing and possibly the world economy also. Food shortages are already escalating around the world. Something has to be done about the speculation on oil. Now.

With the subsidy that the government offered for farmers growing corn for ethanol didn't help with the food shortage#-o And they found it takes 1.3 gal of fuel to make 1 gal of ethonal


I see a drive in consumer demand for something else It has only taken it getting this bad:-"