definition of rules? give some feed back

[dicinu]

for a specific fishery it will clearly (or not so clearly) state where the hook is supposed to be for it to be a legal catch. the Skok is just that in the mouth if it does not state then it is gill plate forward. hell Mintor creek it's okay for barbs. at least it was last year. I haven't looked into it this year. I still fish there barbless due to the amount of Boot fish that are caught. easier to release without a Barb.

I will agree actually Heavily agree the regs in some areas are not as clear without going back and forth in the book to see what they are wanting us to do. I am not a fan of tickets so I read up on the rivers I know I will go to. Rivers I do not plan on attending I could care less about them.

I am pulling out the book to see if catching fish in the salt then in a river is against the regs.. like I said before I never seen where it says there is a daily limit on Salmon only Trout.. I will be back with my final answer on that...

Knot said it is going above your daily limit...

I still cannot find it I did find daily limit is 5 for salmon unless otherwise stated in the regs for the water you are fishing... so this would mean you cannot go from one river to another to fish... but it also stated you are able to retain 2 daily limits of salmon in salt water i am going on a limb here and thinking this is if you are staying over night in the ocean. and not doing the fishing on the same day.

[knotabassturd]

dicinu- on the limit...

It just depends but all waters in Washington have daily limits on trout and salmon (and steelhead, etc).

If you fish a river (or salt or wherever) where the daily limit is 2 adult salmon let's say and then go to another river where it is 4 adult salmon then yes you can limit on 2 at your first place (limit out for that place) and then go to the place where the limit is 4 and catch 2 more (no you can't catch 2 first place and then 4 at second place because you would have 6 for the daily limit thus exceeding the 4 fish limit at the 2nd place).

However, you can't for instance go to the Quil and catch 4 coho in the salt (no min size but only coho allowed to be retained) and then go to the river and get 4 more (min 12" and 4 coho total daily limit).

You'd be 4 fish over the daily limit for the river.

Hope that helps.

BTW, dicinu I'm completely with you on the reading the regs. People should remember to check for emergency changes too as those changes would supercede the regs already written.

[dicinu]

that makes it clear I wonder if the F&G could make it easy to read like so. lol

that makes sense to me. it would be like trout fish lake merdian then hit steel lake for a second limit.

where did you find where certain hooks are different than others for the measurement from tip to shank 3/4 inches.

[Bodofish]

for a specific fishery it will clearly (or not so clearly) state where the hook is supposed to be for it to be a legal catch. the Skok is just that in the mouth if it does not state then it is gill plate forward. hell Mintor creek it's okay for barbs. at least it was last year. I haven't looked into it this year. I still fish there barbless due to the amount of Boot fish that are caught. easier to release without a Barb.

I will agree actually Heavily agree the regs in some areas are not as clear without going back and forth in the book to see what they are wanting us to do. I am not a fan of tickets so I read up on the rivers I know I will go to. Rivers I do not plan on attending I could care less about them.

I am pulling out the book to see if catching fish in the salt then in a river is against the regs.. like I said before I never seen where it says there is a daily limit on Salmon only Trout.. I will be back with my final answer on that...

Knot said it is going above your daily limit...

I still cannot find it I did find daily limit is 5 for salmon unless otherwise stated in the regs for the water you are fishing... so this would mean you cannot go from one river to another to fish... but it also stated you are able to retain 2 daily limits of salmon in salt water i am going on a limb here and thinking this is if you are staying over night in the ocean. and not doing the fishing on the same day.

That would be you can have up to two daily limits in your possession if you are out fishing for multiple days. Pretty standard, for any fishing in WA. I don't think I would try it if I were fishing out of Everett, or anywhere inside of the Straits. They still need to be clearly marked on your card as being caught on two different days and half of them better look like you caught them over 24 hours ago……

[dicinu]

bodo I was figuring that I am not sure how may folks stay in the sound over night even off coast I never heard of anyone staying the night out just to fish the next morning most folks will camp or what not. I would leave my day prior catch there. safer than sorry like you say them fish better look more than 24 hours old. lol

[Mike Carey]

bodo I was figuring that I am not sure how may folks stay in the sound over night even off coast I never heard of anyone staying the night out just to fish the next morning most folks will camp or what not. I would leave my day prior catch there. safer than sorry like you say them fish better look more than 24 hours old. lol

If you can find a calm anchorage it's great fun to sleep overnight on the boat and wake up on the water, ready to fish. As stated, retention limit of two days is standard, including freshwater. I think the exception is any more than that has to be in a processed form. Never had to worry about it so not sure the exact reg.

[Bodofish]

bodo I was figuring that I am not sure how may folks stay in the sound over night even off coast I never heard of anyone staying the night out just to fish the next morning most folks will camp or what not. I would leave my day prior catch there. safer than sorry like you say them fish better look more than 24 hours old. lol

If you can find a calm anchorage it's great fun to sleep overnight on the boat and wake up on the water, ready to fish. As stated, retention limit of two days is standard, including freshwater. I think the exception is any more than that has to be in a processed form. Never had to worry about it so not sure the exact reg.

Fishing for a week a Neah Bay will put you over the two day limit, we always just fillet the fish and Big Salmon puts a tag with your license number and catch date. They rest in their coolers till we head for home. Never had a problem. Same thing goes up in BC too, that's how they keep the local processors in business. They fillet, portion, vac pack and freeze for you. When you get ready to move on they will pack in styro cases with dry ice and ship or into the back of your truck or boat. Awesome program.

[natetreat]

I have another question since we are on this subject, I have ran into people that think it is okay to keep, oh lets say 4 silvers out in quilcene mouth/bay, then go upstream and catch another 4 silvers and then go to the skok and catch 2 more kings, I always thought that it is the maximum number of fish retention at the planned river you intend to fish at or something so like you could go to the skok and catch your 2 kings and then go to the quilcene and get 2 more silver but then you are done unless you are fishing at a 6 fish river next. help.

That rule is clarified under the daily limit/possesion limit rules. Once you have your daily limit, you're done for the day. They'll see on your punch card when you caught your fish and know that you went over your limit.

Anglers may not continue to fish for SALMON after the adult portion of the daily limit has been retained.)

Possession limit - 2 daily limits in fresh form. An additional 40 pounds of SALMON may be possessed in frozen or processed form (see pages 10-11). ATLANTIC SALMON may be retained during any open trout or salmon fishery. There is no size limit or daily limit for ATLANTIC SALMON.

Okay, it's not much of a clarification, now I'm confused too. But I'm pretty sure that you don't get two kings at the Skok, and then two more at the Cowlitz etc.

[Ezlivn89]

im with nate, Im pretty sure thats not how it works at all, once you have reached your daily limit for adults anywhere in washington your day is done.

I believe from my understanding even on rivers where the limit is 6, once the adult portion has been caught which is 3 is some areas i believe, you are done for the day and cannot continue to fish right?

[dicinu]

Aren't those rules under fresh water then separate rules for salt water, heck it is 2 different Lics after all?

[Ezlivn89]

Thats true, but where you harvest the fish is your own choice, preference, getting your limit for the day regardless of where you are, you are (successful to say the least) getting the limit of fish you can retain is how understand it. I believe thats why you have different regulations on why you can keep certian fish in certian areas, to help the species maintain its reproductive system. I believe if you could get your limits in different areas more fishermen would do so, and we would end up wiping out the populations.

[knotabassturd]

Ezlivn, like I said before it is OK to leave a water/fishery where there is a lower daily limit and you already limited there to continue to fish an area with a higher daily limit for whatever species you are fishing for.

So for example you fish river A in the morning and daily limit is 2 salmon any size.
You bonk 2 salmon and have to stop fishing there cuz you hit your daily limit FOR THAT PLACE.

However, if you then proceed to river 2 where the daily limit is higher- 4 salmon any size let's say, then you can start fishing there until you retain 2 more salmon. So at the 2nd place you only caught 2 salmon but you already caught 2 others from the other spot so you have 4 fish for the day and thus have to stop fishing at the 2nd spot as well.

It is a cumulative effect on your daily limit not one where you get to single out a limit for each water you fish and then start over by going to new place. Can't do that.

Make sense? Of course check all regs before going to make sure but pretty sure that's how it works.

Good luck, all IMO only.

[Ezlivn89]

I agree with you, im saying in places where there is a two limit, you cannont go to another place that only has a two limit, and get two more, that would be poaching, on the other hand in area where there is 6 you are allowed to get four more to achieve your daily limit, as long as the regs allow 4 more adults or jacks

[knotabassturd]

I agree with you, im saying in places where there is a two limit, you cannont go to another place that only has a two limit, and get two more, that would be poaching, on the other hand in area where there is 6 you are allowed to get four more to achieve your daily limit, as long as the regs allow 4 more adults or jacks

I believe you have that correct.

[Fishininja]

better be sure

[Bodofish]

You are only allowed one daily limit from any or all bodies of water combined in a 24 hour period. River or lake jumping is not allowed. You could pick up your steel and salmon out of the river and then go to the lake for trout or panfish. But not two limits of salmon or steel from two rivers or salt in 24. I think we're getting borderline on beating a dead horse. The regs just aren't that tough, a remedial reading course and sit down with the pamphlet and a beverage of your choice.