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Post a reply 28 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2 Platypus, Seaguar lines tested...results
by VHawk on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:51 am
A fellow angler from Canada sent me 3 new spools of various Platypus products to test. "Low Stretch", "Super-100" and "Classic". I also took the opportunity to test out Seaguar's "CarbonPro", a 100% fluorocarbon mainline. And threw in one line previously tested in order to make sure the new scale and spindle I was using were giving me results consistent with previous testing. I'll keep the write up short.
The set up is crude but gives pretty consistent results, and with enough data points I am confident with the quality and that the results are accurate to publish. These are very long sample specimens compared with what is used in the in an industrial materials lab. My samples are close to 6 feet (1.8 meters), the samples tested in the lab are under a foot. Take that into consideration.
Diameters were measured using Lyman manual calipers. All lines from Platypus that were measured were over the companies stated diameter. Lines were tested using the same type set up as previous. The spindle used that was attached to the hand held scale was larger than previous. Although out of 60 or so test segments broken less than 5 broke on the handle. Those results were tossed out. Also out of 11 test segments, the lowest result was tossed out. What I was looking for in a 'clean' test break, was a fishing line that broke at least 6 inches from either anchor point, and a crinkled, 'shocked' look to the line near the break. Here's the results:
Platypus Lo-Stretch 4kg (8 pound) dia=0.0095, average breaking strength...7.82 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch= 110,211 lbs psi
Platypus Classic 6lb test dia=0.0095, average breaking strength..............7.597 l.............tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=107,178 lbs psi
Platypus Super-100 10lb test dia=0.011, average breaking strength.........11.84 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=124,580 lbs psi
Seaguar CarbonPro 10 lb test dia=0.012, average break strength.............10.189 lbs.........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=90,091 lbs psi
Maxima Ultragreen 8lb test dia=0.012, average break strength...............11.524 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=101,895 lbs psi
Maxima Ultragreen 8 pound, 0.012........................12.101.............................................106,984.941 previous result
That difference of 6 ounces in the average breaking strength of the Maxima UG could be attributed to an increase in the lengths of the test segments I was breaking. A fishing line breaks at it's weakest spot, like a link of chain. The more links in a chain, the likelier it becomes that there will be an even weaker link pop up. Not counting the lowest result, the Maxima varied from 11lbs 3 oz to 11 lbs 13 oz over the 10 test segments I broke. This was a new spool of line as well. Could also be a natural variance from different batches of the same product.
The CarbonPro tested out poorly in strength, however it's a full fluorocarbon specialty line. Something probably intended for gin clear water on line shy fish. Previous experience testing Seaguar lines showed exceptional consistency in results, with their leader material breaking consistently within 2-3 ounces off average.
The Super-100 also gave consistent results, a fairly strong line. If it had actually been as thin as they say on the label it would have tested out at near 150k psi. With a +/- 5% variance, it competes with other reliable products like Sufix, Izorline, and Trilene.
Any engineering students out there who would like to partner up and build a hands free device from a small electric motor and a small strain gauge? I'd like to be able to more closely replicate the industry testing standards, ASTMD-2101-91 where a constant rate of extension of ten inches per minute and a specimen gauge length of 10 inches are used. In comparison my sample specimens are very very long, and give correspondingly lower average tensile strengths. The results I get are still reproducible, and reliable. I wouldn't expect a 'shake up' in the order of ranking if i downsized the specimen lengths.
Brand/Model................................................Avg strength...........................................in thousands (k) Lbs Sq Inch/dry
P Line Evolution.............................................13.912.............................................146k
P Line CXX extra strong, Flor Green.......................21.836.............................................142k
Stren Magnathin .011.......................................13.14...............................................138k
Stren Magnathin .011, reliability double check..........13.139.............................................138k
P Line CXX extra strong, crystal clear .0145.............22.737.............................................138k
Gamma Copolymer Competition Grade .013.............18.249.............................................137k
Stren Extra Strength .......................................15.25..............................................135k
Sufix Tritanium Plus 0.013.................................17.337.............................................131k
Sufix Seige .012...........................................14.744.............................................130k
Izorline XXX Super Copolymer .012........................14.501.............................................128k
Izorline Platinum .012......................................14.357.............................................127k
Trilene Maxx .013...........................................16.832.............................................127k
Trilene XT .0135.............................................18.101.............................................126k
Seaguar Fluoro 100% leader .01.............................9.888..............................................126k
Sufix Elite .012...............................................14.182.............................................125k
Platypus Super-100 10lb 0.011......................11.84 lbs............................................125k
Yozuri Hybrid .0125.........................................15.08..............................................123k
Big Game clear .012.........................................13.77...............................................122k
Berkely Big Game Hi Test Electric Green .014............17.676.............................................115k
P Line CFX 100% Floro leader .012........................12.649.............................................112k
P Line Floroclear Copolymer .012..........................12.618.............................................112k
Platypus Lo-Stretch 4kg (8 pound) 0.0095.............7.82 lbs..........................................110k
Cabela's Pro Line Low Vis Green .012....................12.445.............................................110k
Platypus Classic 6lb 0.0095............................7.597...............................................107k
Cajun Red .012.............................................12.107.............................................107k
Maxima Ultragreen 8 pound, 0.012........................12.101.............................................107k
Stren Original .013..........................................13.943.............................................105k
Danielson Plus 7 .012.......................................11.699.............................................103k
Maxima Ultragreen 8lb test 0.012.....................11.524 lbs.........................................102k2nd run
Maxima Chameleon 8 pound, 0 .012......................11.462.............................................101k
Makima Ultragreen 0.014...................................15.519.............................................101k
Ande green .012...............................................11.142.............................................99k
Maxima Chameleon .014.....................................15.019.............................................98k
Seaguar CarbonPro 10 lb 0.012.......................10.189 lbs...........................................90k
My notes and log available on request. Samples for testing may be sent to:
Vince Hawkins
1950 Cape Meares Loop
Apt C
Tillamook, OR 97141
Any engineering students out there who would like to partner up and build a hands free device from a small electric motor and a small strain gauge? I'd like to be able to more closely replicate the industry testing standards, ASTMD-2101-91 where a constant rate of extension of ten inches per minute and a specimen gauge length of 10 inches are used. In comparison my sample specimens are very very long, and give correspondingly lower average tensile strengths.
Post a reply 28 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1, 2 Platypus, Seaguar lines tested...results
by VHawk on Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:51 am
A fellow angler from Canada sent me 3 new spools of various Platypus products to test. "Low Stretch", "Super-100" and "Classic". I also took the opportunity to test out Seaguar's "CarbonPro", a 100% fluorocarbon mainline. And threw in one line previously tested in order to make sure the new scale and spindle I was using were giving me results consistent with previous testing. I'll keep the write up short.
The set up is crude but gives pretty consistent results, and with enough data points I am confident with the quality and that the results are accurate to publish. These are very long sample specimens compared with what is used in the in an industrial materials lab. My samples are close to 6 feet (1.8 meters), the samples tested in the lab are under a foot. Take that into consideration.
Diameters were measured using Lyman manual calipers. All lines from Platypus that were measured were over the companies stated diameter. Lines were tested using the same type set up as previous. The spindle used that was attached to the hand held scale was larger than previous. Although out of 60 or so test segments broken less than 5 broke on the handle. Those results were tossed out. Also out of 11 test segments, the lowest result was tossed out. What I was looking for in a 'clean' test break, was a fishing line that broke at least 6 inches from either anchor point, and a crinkled, 'shocked' look to the line near the break. Here's the results:
Platypus Lo-Stretch 4kg (8 pound) dia=0.0095, average breaking strength...7.82 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch= 110,211 lbs psi
Platypus Classic 6lb test dia=0.0095, average breaking strength..............7.597 l.............tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=107,178 lbs psi
Platypus Super-100 10lb test dia=0.011, average breaking strength.........11.84 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=124,580 lbs psi
Seaguar CarbonPro 10 lb test dia=0.012, average break strength.............10.189 lbs.........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=90,091 lbs psi
Maxima Ultragreen 8lb test dia=0.012, average break strength...............11.524 lbs...........tensile strength in pounds per sq inch=101,895 lbs psi
Maxima Ultragreen 8 pound, 0.012........................12.101.............................................106,984.941 previous result
That difference of 6 ounces in the average breaking strength of the Maxima UG could be attributed to an increase in the lengths of the test segments I was breaking. A fishing line breaks at it's weakest spot, like a link of chain. The more links in a chain, the likelier it becomes that there will be an even weaker link pop up. Not counting the lowest result, the Maxima varied from 11lbs 3 oz to 11 lbs 13 oz over the 10 test segments I broke. This was a new spool of line as well. Could also be a natural variance from different batches of the same product.
The CarbonPro tested out poorly in strength, however it's a full fluorocarbon specialty line. Something probably intended for gin clear water on line shy fish. Previous experience testing Seaguar lines showed exceptional consistency in results, with their leader material breaking consistently within 2-3 ounces off average.
The Super-100 also gave consistent results, a fairly strong line. If it had actually been as thin as they say on the label it would have tested out at near 150k psi. With a +/- 5% variance, it competes with other reliable products like Sufix, Izorline, and Trilene.
Any engineering students out there who would like to partner up and build a hands free device from a small electric motor and a small strain gauge? I'd like to be able to more closely replicate the industry testing standards, ASTMD-2101-91 where a constant rate of extension of ten inches per minute and a specimen gauge length of 10 inches are used. In comparison my sample specimens are very very long, and give correspondingly lower average tensile strengths. The results I get are still reproducible, and reliable. I wouldn't expect a 'shake up' in the order of ranking if i downsized the specimen lengths.
Brand/Model................................................Avg strength...........................................in thousands (k) Lbs Sq Inch/dry
P Line Evolution.............................................13.912.............................................146k
P Line CXX extra strong, Flor Green.......................21.836.............................................142k
Stren Magnathin .011.......................................13.14...............................................138k
Stren Magnathin .011, reliability double check..........13.139.............................................138k
P Line CXX extra strong, crystal clear .0145.............22.737.............................................138k
Gamma Copolymer Competition Grade .013.............18.249.............................................137k
Stren Extra Strength .......................................15.25..............................................135k
Sufix Tritanium Plus 0.013.................................17.337.............................................131k
Sufix Seige .012...........................................14.744.............................................130k
Izorline XXX Super Copolymer .012........................14.501.............................................128k
Izorline Platinum .012......................................14.357.............................................127k
Trilene Maxx .013...........................................16.832.............................................127k
Trilene XT .0135.............................................18.101.............................................126k
Seaguar Fluoro 100% leader .01.............................9.888..............................................126k
Sufix Elite .012...............................................14.182.............................................125k
Platypus Super-100 10lb 0.011......................11.84 lbs............................................125k
Yozuri Hybrid .0125.........................................15.08..............................................123k
Big Game clear .012.........................................13.77...............................................122k
Berkely Big Game Hi Test Electric Green .014............17.676.............................................115k
P Line CFX 100% Floro leader .012........................12.649.............................................112k
P Line Floroclear Copolymer .012..........................12.618.............................................112k
Platypus Lo-Stretch 4kg (8 pound) 0.0095.............7.82 lbs..........................................110k
Cabela's Pro Line Low Vis Green .012....................12.445.............................................110k
Platypus Classic 6lb 0.0095............................7.597...............................................107k
Cajun Red .012.............................................12.107.............................................107k
Maxima Ultragreen 8 pound, 0.012........................12.101.............................................107k
Stren Original .013..........................................13.943.............................................105k
Danielson Plus 7 .012.......................................11.699.............................................103k
Maxima Ultragreen 8lb test 0.012.....................11.524 lbs.........................................102k2nd run
Maxima Chameleon 8 pound, 0 .012......................11.462.............................................101k
Makima Ultragreen 0.014...................................15.519.............................................101k
Ande green .012...............................................11.142.............................................99k
Maxima Chameleon .014.....................................15.019.............................................98k
Seaguar CarbonPro 10 lb 0.012.......................10.189 lbs...........................................90k
My notes and log available on request. Samples for testing may be sent to:
Vince Hawkins
1950 Cape Meares Loop
Apt C
Tillamook, OR 97141
Any engineering students out there who would like to partner up and build a hands free device from a small electric motor and a small strain gauge? I'd like to be able to more closely replicate the industry testing standards, ASTMD-2101-91 where a constant rate of extension of ten inches per minute and a specimen gauge length of 10 inches are used. In comparison my sample specimens are very very long, and give correspondingly lower average tensile strengths.
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