Winter Steel

A place for readers to talk about river fishing in Washington.
Forum rules
Forum Post Guidelines: This Forum is rated “Family Friendly”. Civil discussions are encouraged and welcomed. Name calling, negative, harassing, or threatening comments will be removed and may result in suspension or IP Ban without notice. Please refer to the Terms of Service and Forum Guidelines post for more information. Thank you
Locked
kinghunter
Warrant Officer
Posts: 149
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:37 pm
Location: Pierce

RE:Winter Steel

Post by kinghunter » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:59 pm

I remember last December going for my first steelhead, I bought a roll of pre-tied double hooks and shrimp. I found with the double hook set up, I was getting snagged up alot more. I was hardly using any weight and still getting snagged up. So now I don't even bother with the double hooks, just seems like a waste, especially with those gammi hooks.

User avatar
jens
Commodore
Posts: 1257
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:55 am
Location: In the woods away from the pollution

RE:Winter Steel

Post by jens » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:25 pm

kinghunter wrote:I remember last December going for my first steelhead, I bought a roll of pre-tied double hooks and shrimp. I found with the double hook set up, I was getting snagged up alot more. I was hardly using any weight and still getting snagged up. So now I don't even bother with the double hooks, just seems like a waste, especially with those gammi hooks.
I rest my case. If kh is using doublehooks...:-" :-# :-$ :-& :albino: :clown: :clown:

Just kiddin bud, fish with me and I'll change your views on driftfishing. :thumright [crying] [crying] [crying]
"One more......."

User avatar
crankbait42
Commander
Posts: 310
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:08 pm
Location: washington
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:50 pm

I picked up another driftfishing today. I will posta pic later. I dont understand what is wrong with drift fishing?

User avatar
Bodofish
Vice Admiral Three Stars
Posts: 5401
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:59 pm
Location: Woodinville
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by Bodofish » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:07 pm

crankbait42 wrote:I picked up another driftfishing today. I will posta pic later. I dont understand what is wrong with drift fishing?
Nothing
Build a man a fire and he's warm for the night. Light a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life!

User avatar
scott080379
Commodore
Posts: 905
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:49 pm
Location: Kitsap, WA

RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:27 pm

Bodofish wrote:
crankbait42 wrote:I picked up another driftfishing today. I will posta pic later. I dont understand what is wrong with drift fishing?
Nothing
Some people just see it as snagging/flossing fish.

Or just feel that true steel headers should use spoons or float eggs and jigs. :-#

Me don't care, I prefer to catch them on spoons but some waters just aren't ideal for spoon/spinners or floats, so I will drift all day.

User avatar
jens
Commodore
Posts: 1257
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:55 am
Location: In the woods away from the pollution

RE:Winter Steel

Post by jens » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:31 pm

crankbait42 wrote:I picked up another driftfishing today. I will posta pic later. I dont understand what is wrong with drift fishing?
I'll post my pic of my Steel I caught on saturday on a jig later from Saturday.

2 guys that were "drifting" below me, snagged 1 in the tail and the other in the belly both fish were coming in sideways. They were pretty close to keeping these fish, but the few of us fishing made it very clear what would happen if they tried to keep those fish.

They were fishing a travel lane very similar to Blue Creek. The water is so fast, there is no way IMO these fish are biting.

I hope you continue to fish with spoons, there is nothing like it, other then seeing your bobber disappear.

I have flossed many, many Salmon. Almost 2 punchcards this year. I have caught 7 fish either with eggs or on a spoon. The rest I can honestly say and tell, none of these fish bit my corky. I have caught a lot of fish and looked inside the mouth only to see the hook buried in their tongue or the roof of their mouth. I have to believe the equipment I am using, I can feel the slightest and most subtle feeling of my line in the fishes mouth. The saying goes, "Jerk or be one..."


I can only hope they make fishing with corkies illegal.. [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

Then what will you driftfisherman do?
"One more......."

User avatar
jens
Commodore
Posts: 1257
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:55 am
Location: In the woods away from the pollution

RE:Winter Steel

Post by jens » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:32 pm

scott080379 wrote:
Bodofish wrote:
crankbait42 wrote:I picked up another driftfishing today. I will posta pic later. I dont understand what is wrong with drift fishing?
Nothing
Some people just see it as snagging/flossing fish.

Or just feel that true steel headers should use spoons or float eggs and jigs. :-#

Me don't care, I prefer to catch them on spoons but some waters just aren't ideal for spoon/spinners or floats, so I will drift all day.
getting personal are we?
"One more......."

User avatar
Bodofish
Vice Admiral Three Stars
Posts: 5401
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:59 pm
Location: Woodinville
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by Bodofish » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:22 pm

Nope just realistic. What's next C&R fly fishing.... That's the kind of tune I here from them. I do all sort of different types of fishing. So what constitutes a snagging rig? length of leader?
Build a man a fire and he's warm for the night. Light a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life!

User avatar
curado
Admiral
Posts: 1785
Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:49 pm
Location: Lake Stevens
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by curado » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:24 pm

a treble hook and lead wrapped around is a snagging rig
If it looks fishy, Then fish it, If it dont look fishy, fish it anyways. <')}}}}><

Team Fish Whore
Twisted Steel Guide Service
EGG GURU

User avatar
Bodofish
Vice Admiral Three Stars
Posts: 5401
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:59 pm
Location: Woodinville
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by Bodofish » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:57 pm

I can go with that.
Build a man a fire and he's warm for the night. Light a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life!

User avatar
crankbait42
Commander
Posts: 310
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:08 pm
Location: washington
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:25 pm

Image

Fly fisherman fish with beads under an indicator, What is the difference between drifting a corky and floating a bead? And when the hooks are inside the mouth and the leader is 16 inches long there is nothing to question. I love spoon and bobber fishing but there is a place and time for everything. Oh and I have snagged 3 steelhead this year, all released. one drifting eggs and no lead, One drifting a corky and one on a Float and jig. And salmon fishing this year I snagged a lot of fish with a float and eggs.
Last edited by Anonymous on Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
natetreat
Rear Admiral One Star
Posts: 3653
Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 10:11 pm
Location: Lynnwood

RE:Winter Steel

Post by natetreat » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:43 pm

I guess this is the age old dilemma about flossing vs. snagging. I've never flossed a steelie. I've had the hook come out the mouth and get 'em in the motor, but I put them back in the drink after that because I'm a law abiding citizen. But really, if this whole thing is about the double hook thing I'll tell you what, My grandad used double hooks and a big fat fatty wooden drift bobbr painted orange, then he taught my pops to fish, and they used oakies. Until I was older, I thought that's the only way you fished, for steelhead. I'd never heard of using longer than a two foot leader. You get snagged up a bunch more, a lot more if you brush into a stick or something, but those double hooks are sticky awesome. I will use 'em, and not have fish co me unbuttoned as often. Which is okay if it's a boot chum, but when you miss a big fish because it's got a bad hookset and it was a steelhead, I just kick myself. But the flossing/snagging thing is old news guys, and here up north you'll never find steel laying thick enough for it to be a big deal.

User avatar
scott080379
Commodore
Posts: 905
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:49 pm
Location: Kitsap, WA

RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:46 pm

jens wrote:
scott080379 wrote:
Bodofish wrote: Nothing
Some people just see it as snagging/flossing fish.

Or just feel that true steel headers should use spoons or float eggs and jigs. :-#

Me don't care, I prefer to catch them on spoons but some waters just aren't ideal for spoon/spinners or floats, so I will drift all day.
getting personal are we?
No not at all, there are plenty of peopel that have said that and feel that way.. Like I said I perfer to fish with spoons and spinners but if the water isn't made for it and it is more of a drift hole then I drift it.

hell what ever catches fish legally is the way I will use to be honest.

User avatar
BARCHASER10
Captain
Posts: 646
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:36 pm
Location: Bothell, WA
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by BARCHASER10 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:46 pm

I grew up drift fishing. Caught my first Steelie in 1958 at age 14. I used to use okie drifters with two hooks. Quit using two hooks years ago, too many snags. Real men drift fish!

User avatar
curado
Admiral
Posts: 1785
Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:49 pm
Location: Lake Stevens
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by curado » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:57 pm

AGREED
If it looks fishy, Then fish it, If it dont look fishy, fish it anyways. <')}}}}><

Team Fish Whore
Twisted Steel Guide Service
EGG GURU

User avatar
jens
Commodore
Posts: 1257
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:55 am
Location: In the woods away from the pollution

RE:Winter Steel

Post by jens » Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:52 am

Back to topic. Notellum River December 26th 2010. Bobberdown!
Attachments
December_Notellum_river_2010.jpg
December_Notellum_river_2010.jpg (55 KiB) Viewed 1673 times
December_Notellum_jig_baby_2010.jpg
December_Notellum_jig_baby_2010.jpg (40.26 KiB) Viewed 1673 times
Last edited by Anonymous on Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
"One more......."

User avatar
scott080379
Commodore
Posts: 905
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:49 pm
Location: Kitsap, WA

RE:Winter Steel

Post by scott080379 » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:40 am

Nice chrome Jens......

User avatar
HOOKEDONFISHING
Lieutenant
Posts: 248
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:18 am
Location: Bothell

RE:Winter Steel

Post by HOOKEDONFISHING » Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:39 pm

I drift fish with a 6ft leader yarn and corkie and have caught 2 steelies this winter and both were in mouth and 1 was deep down throat. I also caught 1 with float and jigg. I like to drift fish but I switch it up if there not biting.

User avatar
flinginpooh
Captain
Posts: 819
Joined: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:00 pm
Location: bonney lake

RE:Winter Steel

Post by flinginpooh » Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:00 pm

Ive got 7 in dec and all came from drifting. Infact every steelie Ive ever caught has been drifting. Ive caught salmon on spoons and spinners but never steel. 6ft leader, shoot Ill go 12 ft sometimes. Every one Ive gotten ever has been in the mouth. Ive never seen steel come in sideways except from boats up until a few months ago. Im sure it happens I just never seen it. Ive been fishing at Blue creek for over 20 years and Never seen em come in sideways. Jens has met alot of my family and we drift. He has a fixation though with bobbers its cool. I do it how I do it. He does it how he does it. Neither of us are right but we both catch fish so its cool. He just thinks hes cooler. lol Its all about what ya want. What you feel comfy with. Read books and articles written by the guys well known for fishing. They will tell ya there is more then one way to catch fish. Try them out then find what works for you. Another thing is finding good people to fish with. This is something Jens did. He started real nice and got in with some people that know how to fish. He took notes and learned well. Hes gotten alot of steel this year with the advise and tips hes learned. It also helps that he gets out alot more then most people. Going fishing before and after work and almost every weekend. But thats what happens when ya get hooked. Oh and since they lowered the water on the cow Its TOUGH. Gl out there everyone.
More fish please!

User avatar
crankbait42
Commander
Posts: 310
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:08 pm
Location: washington
Contact:

RE:Winter Steel

Post by crankbait42 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:34 pm

Image


Image


Picked up a new lami yesterday and broke it in right today with 2 fish, tho one was not a winter fish...

Float and eggs!
Last edited by Anonymous on Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Locked