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Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:17 pm
by Don Wittenberger
A photo of a 48-incher Mike Nielsen caught and released at Merwin Lake on July 31, 2006 appears on page 84 of the June/July '08 issue of Musky Hunter Magazine.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:29 pm
by muskyhunter
Cool, come on Don get em' to join the Chapter!! That fish was 28 lbs? Really?

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:02 pm
by Riverman
Boy that poor fish sure is beat up...........

RM

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:09 am
by Don Wittenberger
It weighed 29 lbs. on my tacklebox scale, but after some debate, we decided it was a 28-pounder. My scale weighs a bit high in that range, and the length x girth formula gave a weight of 28.71 lbs. This was the third fish over 28 lbs. that Mike has caught at Merwin since 2005.

It's very common for Merwin fish to have split fins like this one. My guess is it happens in the hatchery. We catch a few with deformed upper lips, too, which Steve Jackson says is caused by the fingerlings bumping into the concrete walls of the hatchery tanks.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:56 am
by Gone Fishin
That fish looks like one rough customer! Nice fish and that is awesome to hear about the magazine! So what is the length x girth formula? I found it one time but don't remember it.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:50 am
by Don Wittenberger
Length x girth x girth (in inches) / 800 = weight (in lbs.)

E.g., a 45 inch fish with a 20 inch girth would weigh 22 1/2 lbs.: 45 x 20 x 20 = 18000 / 800 = 22.5

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:59 am
by PDXFisher
Don Wittenberger wrote: It's very common for Merwin fish to have split fins like this one. My guess is it happens in the hatchery. We catch a few with deformed upper lips, too, which Steve Jackson says is caused by the fingerlings bumping into the concrete walls of the hatchery tanks.
Probably because the majority of the people fishing Muskies down here use salmon nets that split the fins pretty bad (my father, for instance, but not for long). I hear they heal eventually, but I imagine if they are caught and released a few times they could end up looking like that.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:19 pm
by muskyhunter
Just sayin' its a nice heavy fish....with no direspect to you or your buddy but the 2, 45 " fish I put in the net this weekend looked a heckof a lot heavier than your pal's fish..

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:55 pm
by Don Wittenberger
Well I guess Mike will just have to catch a fatter one this year. I'll let him know. :)

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:53 am
by kevinb
PDXFisher wrote:
Don Wittenberger wrote: It's very common for Merwin fish to have split fins like this one. My guess is it happens in the hatchery. We catch a few with deformed upper lips, too, which Steve Jackson says is caused by the fingerlings bumping into the concrete walls of the hatchery tanks.
Probably because the majority of the people fishing Muskies down here use salmon nets that split the fins pretty bad (my father, for instance, but not for long). I hear they heal eventually, but I imagine if they are caught and released a few times they could end up looking like that.
Good to know.
More reasons to use the knotless nets.
Hey Mark..if I mention Frabill nets over and over, do I get a free one or a cool T-shirt?:-"

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:27 pm
by Don Wittenberger
Without a doubt, some kinds of nets are hard on fish, but I'm not so sure it's just nets. I've seen split fins on fish under 30" that probably haven't been caught before, and I saw split fins on Merwin fish back when when no one was fishing for them and I was catching virgin fish (i.e., not previously caught and released). I certainly don't rule out nets, but I'm inclined to believe hatchery damage and collisions with underwater wood also are significant factors.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:04 pm
by Gone Fishin
I'll agree with Don, I have caught some pretty small muskies and they had fins like that. These were silver lake fish. I do believe that I have seen much the same from a few out at Newman. I think it must be a hatchery deal because they seem be found like that in all the lakes.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:08 pm
by kevinb
Maybe its a combo thingy. I've heard about muskies in the hatcheries...makes sense. They're packed in there pretty tight. I can raise a few in my pool and bathtub:-" I wish.....

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:23 pm
by PDXFisher
Gone Fishin wrote:I'll agree with Don, I have caught some pretty small muskies and they had fins like that. These were silver lake fish. I do believe that I have seen much the same from a few out at Newman. I think it must be a hatchery deal because they seem be found like that in all the lakes.
Then what the heck are they doing in these hatcheries that they're not doing in the hatcheries in Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin? Fish in those states have even more reason to be like that, since they're not hybrids and get beat up from spawning. I've seen em with tails that look like they've been ground down from spawning, but not looking like the petals of an Iris.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:03 am
by tmusky1
I don't know guys, all the tigers we've caught out of Mayfield all were in good shape. Do they all come from the same hatchery?

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:08 pm
by Don Wittenberger
Yes, they all come from the same hatchery.

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:38 pm
by Gone Fishin
Yeah after looking at some more pics I definately think some lakes muskies end up chewed more than others! One of the many mysteries of the tiger muskie!

RE:Local Fish Makes Good

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:50 pm
by Deadeyemark
I don't think it's the lake that has the effects on tails or jaws. I think it's from over crowding in the hatchery. It would also be core confined to certain year classes, those that were very crowded.