Northwest Fishing Reports

I was fishing the Duwamish Sunday morn for the outgoing tide. Someone up river was throwing grass,branches,and other $#@%^ in the water. You can tell fresh debris from the usual old stuff that travels the waters. If you take kids and they throw junk in the water Put a leash on your kids. If youre older and bored so you clean your fishing spot then quit fishing and become a gardner. After fishing I took a lil ride up river and sure enough I found the culprits. I took a few pics of them and submitted them to the King County Sherrifs office. I got pics of their rigs ,lic plate numbers and pics of them tossing crap in the water. Instead of packing it out in bags they were tossing it in the river.There were 4 middle aged to seniors fishing and tossing junk. This is so rude to do to other fishermen. If you were on the Lower Green or Upper Duwamish then sorry for turning this in but next time take a book to read.
I saw a very large Sea -lion yesterday in Tukwilla. I was at Fort Dent (Tukwilla Junction)area where I saw this huge splash while fishing. Ive not seen a sea lion that high up before.

Lotta douche bags out there. Sorry about those guys. How was the fishing though?

Any day fishing is a great day. I was out at the crack of dawn and fished till 1pm. I didnt get any hits that were hook setting hits. Lots of Commerants and the sea-lion. Im figuring if there was a sealion that far up that .
A. He was chasing fish that high up
B. he was desperate trying to find a fish to eat.
Both Sealions and Commerants looked fat and healthy. They were catching better then I did. All that said I had a great time.

Always great to be out on the water, even when the crazies are out. Sea lions that high up have gotta be pretty desperate. I've seen them way up at 522 on the snoho before, but that was when the humpies were in. Crazy seals.

I was expecting to read that they were tossing junk in front of the tribal nets, something that has been known to occur in the past. Keep in mind that a slingshot with rocks for ammo is legal for chasing off seals!

natetreat wrote:Always great to be out on the water, even when the crazies are out. Sea lions that high up have gotta be pretty desperate. I've seen them way up at 522 on the snoho before, but that was when the humpies were in. Crazy seals.

Try the Wallace flats for a fat @$$ed Sea Lion..... I just said ok I'm done fishing now, lets go do something stupid and futile...... Wish I had the big pistol....

G-Man wrote:I was expecting to read that they were tossing junk in front of the tribal nets, something that has been known to occur in the past. Keep in mind that a slingshot with rocks for ammo is legal for chasing off seals!

Shooting a sling shot at the Indians is bound to make them really P!$$ed. No telling what they might do..... even shoot back. As for tossing junk in the water, please retie your bails with cotton string so they do come apart, kinda like the crab pot regs. For best effect run water on them from the garden hose before deplying them, they'll travel semi submerged...

wait were they tossing garbage in the river or just branches and grass?

Just for the record, I did not in any way condone the use of slingshots to harass tribal members while tending nets. The slingshots are to be used as a seal deterrent.

G-Man wrote:Just for the record, I did not in any way condone the use of slingshots to harass tribal members while tending nets. The slingshots are to be used as a seal deterrent.

Although we would all thuroughly enjoy both uses.

G-Man wrote:Just for the record, I did not in any way condone the use of slingshots to harass tribal members while tending nets. The slingshots are to be used as a seal deterrent.

No need to. I applaud both slingshots and debris in their nets.

racfish:
You might want to pull out your WDFW Regs and read page 41, that section you were fishing at Fort Dent Park of the Duwamish/Green is closed to fishing as of Jan 15th up to 277th bridge.

Alrite I gotta go search for hay bale nets and slingshot seals now

Bodofish wrote:

G-Man wrote:Just for the record, I did not in any way condone the use of slingshots to harass tribal members while tending nets. The slingshots are to be used as a seal deterrent.

No need to. I applaud both slingshots and debris in their nets.

and slingshots to their heads for that matter

Here is the official NOAA stance on deterring seals. My favorites are in bold.

Potential Deterrence Methods for Pacific Harbor Seals & California Sea Lions - January 2008
The following list of “potential methods” and “deterrents to avoid” is not an exhaustive list of non-lethal methods or techniques. If you have questions about protecting your property and/or fishing gear and catch from nuisance Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions, please contact our marine mammal specialists: Brent Norberg, 206-526-6733; Garth Griffin, 503-231-2005; Lynne Barre, 206-526-4745.
Note: Some of the methods listed (such as loud noise or pyrotechnics) may not be appropriate for use in some areas, or are subject to prohibition under federal, state or local ordinances. The presence of Endangered Species Act-listed species in some areas may advise against the use of certain methods. Please consult with appropriate authorities to determine if such prohibitions exist in your area, or if ESA-listed species may be encountered.
Potential methods for use by private property owners to deter Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions from damaging property (developed waterfront, decks, docks, floats, piers, bait receivers, vessels at anchor, etc.).
Barriers & Exclusion Devices:
•fencing (e.g., plastic construction/snow fence, chain link)
•closely spaced posts
•bull rails
•electric livestock fencing
•netting
•swim step protector
Visual Repellents:
•flags, pinwheels, or streamers
•flashing lights or strobes
•balloons
•human attendants/monitors
Noise Makers:
•horns, whistles, bells
•electronic acoustic devices (Acoustic Harassment Devices)
•clapping, banging on pots, pans, drums; empty aluminum cans on a string banging together
•music
•starter pistols
•pyrotechnics (e.g., bird screamers, bangers, firecrackers, propane canons)
Physical Contact:
•high or low pressure water hoses
•sprinklers, sprayers
•crowder boards
•bull poles (blunt tip), brooms
•cattle prod (these products produce only a mild electric shock designed for handling livestock and are in no way related to “stun guns” designed for self-defense)
•toy water guns (e.g., “Super Soaker©”)
•non-toxic and water soluble paint ball or air soft guns
•slingshot
•chemical irritants (e.g., non-toxic pepper spray, mace) used for animal control (there are many municipal and state ordinances controlling the use and possession of these irritants)
Note: Guard dogs are not included on the list of suggested measures because of risks to both dogs and marine mammals, including the potential risk of disease transmission between them.
Potential methods for use by fishers to deter Pacific harbor seals and California seal lions from damaging gear or catch (anglers must be actively fishing with gear deployed).
Visual Repellents/Noise Makers:
•boat hazing, circling
•pounding on hull
•pyrotechnics (e.g., bird screamers, bangers, underwater firecrackers, cracker shells)
•starter pistols
•horns, bells, whistles
Physical Contact:
•slingshots
•non-toxic and water soluble paint ball guns
•non-lethal ammunition (e.g., rubber bullets, sabot rounds, game stingers)
Methods to Avoid – The following methods and techniques have an increased likelihood of causing injury or death and should be avoided.
•No Firearms with “live” (lethal) ammunition
•No Devices with Injurious Projectiles (e.g., archery gear, crossbows, spear guns, bangsticks)
•No Sharp/Pointed Objects (e.g., harpoons, spears, gaffs, nail studded bats/poles/clubs)
•No Entangling Devices (e.g., loose webbing, snares, concertina wire)
•No Aggressive Tactile Methods (e.g., striking animals with bats, hammers etc., impact with vehicles or boats )
•No Tainted Baits or Poisons
Act Responsibly and Use Common Sense! - Regardless of method or intent, the property owner or fisher may be subject to prosecution should a marine mammal be seriously injured or killed as a result of deterrence efforts for the protection of property, gear or catch.
Remember Personal Safety! - Attempts by property owners and/or fishers to deter nuisance animals from engaging in unwanted behaviors using non-lethal means is a personal choice and not without risk (to the person doing the deterring and anyone around them). Sea lions and seals are wild animals that may react unpredictably to non-lethal deterrence measures, resulting in personal injury or additional damage to property. Sea lions are large and powerful animals that can move as quickly as a person on land.
Be Aware of People around You and be Courteous! - The safe use of some of the above-listed potential methods (e.g., cracker shells, non-lethal ammunition) requires considerable skill and experience. The use of some of these methods may precipitate undesirable social interactions. If you are in possession of a firearm, law enforcement officers approaching your property or vessel will assume that your firearm is loaded with lethal ammunition.
Individuals attempting to deter nuisance sea lions and seals, using the above-listed potential methods or similar techniques, do so at their own risk.

cool looks like a 12 guage with rubber bullets or bean bags are good for sea lions.

I was fishing Bush Point a while ago and the sealions were ripping steelies in front of us. I pulled out the wrist rocket with my 1/2 " steel ball bearings. All I managed to do was piss off the sealion. I swear he was comming for me. LOL. As I was firing away a Island county sherriff told me it was actually illegal to harass sealions.The same thing happened to me a the Seattle Govt. Locks fishing steel in the late 70's.
I dont condone netting steelies,but its one of those things you just get used to. Its gonna happen regardless. America is great on making people who live off Govt. freebies. The natives the homeless.the crazies and the loafers.This could go on forever . I could go on forever. Thank G-D I dont have to fish to sustain life.
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